Saida English Learners and Teachers Forum Forum Index
 
 
 
Saida English Learners and Teachers Forum Forum IndexFAQSearchRegisterLog in
 

Syntax

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Saida English Learners and Teachers Forum Forum Index -> Analysing Language -> Linguistics
Previous topic :: Next topic  
Author Message
 Frank Antonson
 
  
Offline

 Joined: 23 Dec 2009
 Posts: 25
 
Localisation: Bedford, PA, USA
Masculin Verseau (20jan-19fev)
Point(s): 6.60
Points Average: 165

 PostPosted: Sat 13 Feb - 21:39 (2010)    Post subject: Syntax Reply with quote

Wow!  That seems so complicated.  I think I understood you, but it is like a completely
different language from Reed-Kellogg.  In R-K there are about 25 different "parts of
sentences" -- simple subject, simple predicate, modifier, direct object, indirect object,
prepositional phrase, etc.  Each has a way of being diagrammed.  Once those sentence
parts are learned, there is no sentence that makes sense that can't be diagrammed. 


 Back to top
 Publicité
 
  

 
 
 

 PostPosted: Sat 13 Feb - 21:39 (2010)    Post subject: Publicité

PublicitéSupprimer les publicités ?
 Back to top
 Trance Freak
 
  
Offline

 Joined: 19 Dec 2009
 Posts: 5,090
 
Localisation: in front of my pc
Féminin Scorpion (23oct-21nov)
Point(s): 0.11
Points Average: 539

 PostPosted: Fri 19 Feb - 19:40 (2010)    Post subject: Syntax Reply with quote

Actually, PSR is most concerned with the Lexical Items' nature rather than function.
Word Classes are 1st well identified & classified in a separate grammar course, & so are Predicates.
4eg: Nouns :
          >> Kinds
          >> Gender
          >> Classes
          >> Functions: Sbj - Prdcte Nmntve - Od - Oi - Obj of Prep° - Vocative - Appositive.
          >> Cases

        Noun Equivalents:
          >> Pronouns: Nominative  - Accusitive - Dative
          >> Noun Phrases
          >> Noun Clause
         
        Verbs:
          >> Classes
          >> Forms
          >> Finite / Non-Finite Vrb Phrases
          >> Tense - Aspect - Mood

         etc
_________________
Hel is what they call me
& Niflheim is where I live
dont h8 on me but simply fear me
cuz im a beast & I dont 4give


 Back to top
 Frank Antonson
 
  
Offline

 Joined: 23 Dec 2009
 Posts: 25
 
Localisation: Bedford, PA, USA
Masculin Verseau (20jan-19fev)
Point(s): 6.60
Points Average: 165

 PostPosted: Sat 20 Feb - 17:23 (2010)    Post subject: Syntax Reply with quote

I begin to understand the difference.
Reed-Kellogg diagrams can work for sentences that make no sense at all.  Chomsky's famous sentence about colorless green ideas... can be diagrammed just fine.

So, lexical distinctions are probably not nearly as important.

Also, at least the way that House and Harman present grammar, morphology and syntax are quite different things.  Verb tense, would be a matter of morphology, as would number, gender, etc.
Syntax, and R-K diagramming, is strictly about how the sentence is put together.


 Back to top
 Contenu Sponsorisé
 
  

 
 
 

 PostPosted: Today at 21:07 (2019)    Post subject: Syntax

 Back to top
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Saida English Learners and Teachers Forum Forum Index -> Analysing Language -> Linguistics All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  

Index | Getting a forum | Free support forum | Free forums directory | Report a violation | Conditions générales d'utilisation
Template SoftLight created by larme d'ange
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group